The Convoluted Illogic of the Self Righteous Republican Party.

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Kay Bailey Hutchinson and Aaron. She doesn't think anyone who lies should be prosecuted. She thinks lying is okay. BUT, get this. She thinks anyone who committed the crime of outing Ms. Plame should be held responsilbe. Now. I ask you. How is anyone supposed to know if one is responsible for outing Ms. Plame as a crime if it's okay to lie? That the convoluted thinking of the Republican Party. Completely self righteous. Does Aaron go in for the 'kill' to point out how this woman has a double standard. No, of course not. Women aren't treated like that as a Republican but God help you if you are a Democrat.

From the Transcript:

BROWN: Senator Kay Bailey Hutchison of Texas is a proud conservative, also a staunch supporter of the Miers nomination. And we spoke with the senator earlier tonight.

(BEGIN VIDEOTAPE)

BROWN (voice-over): Senator, did the White House blow this one?

SEN. KAY BAILEY HUTCHISON (R), TEXAS: I don't think the White House blew it. I think they had set parameters. The president knew Harriet Miers and wanted someone that he knew and would trust to have his judicial philosophy and I just think that she was not treated fairly. I think people didn't give her a chance to say who she was and what she believed and I think that's unfortunate.

BROWN (on camera): Did she jump or was she pushed?

HUTCHISON: No, she made that decision on her own. She did.

BROWN: Why did social conservatives -- because it really was social conservatives largely, not exclusively -- hammer her so hard? Is it because they weren't certain -- 100 percent certain -- that she would vote to overturn Roe versus Wade?

HUTCHISON: Well, I think there were a lot of factors here, Aaron. I do think that some people were concerned that they didn't know exactly. But I have to say they didn't know exactly what John Roberts would do and you didn't hear this kind of uproar. But I also think that on the other side, the Democrats were beginning to say they wanted to have internal White House documents and they wouldn't go forward without that. And I think that's what was the final blow for her.

BROWN: The last time I checked, your side, the Republicans have the votes. They have the votes in the committee, they have the votes on the floor. And to say that it was the Democrats that did her in in the end sounds like at least a failure of mathematics, if not politics.

HUTCHISON: Well, people weren't voting in lock step. We do have Republican control, but there were people rightly who were saying I'm going to wait and see. And I think the overwhelming view was that the Democrats were not going to support her and that they were going to require information that could not be given and they were going to make a big deal of that at the hearings. And that was a concern.

BROWN: Do you think, under the circumstances, the president is a year into this term, he has control or his party has control of both houses of Congress, that the president himself has been damaged -- be honest now -- has been damaged by a nomination that he could not even get to a hearing?

HUTCHISON: I think Harriet made the decision to stop before the hearing. I think the president wanted her to go forward and he stood 100 percent behind her and he was not in any way, I think, to blame for her not getting a hearing.

(END VIDEOTAPE)

BROWN: Kay Baily Hutchison. We're clearly juggling two major stories tonight: The Miers withdrawal and the CIA leak investigation, which will come to a head -- perhaps not totally, but in part tomorrow. John King has an irresistible urge to work the telephones, I must say. He has been working the phones tonight on this and he joins us now.

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They are starting their 'Anderson' promotin again. Or better stated, still.


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Aaron and Harriet Miers. AGAIN?

How much can you chew this up and spit it out again?

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Commercials.

Aaron. LIKELY, is not definitely.

Aide to Cheney Appears Likely to Be Indicted; Rove Under Scrutiny
By DAVID JOHNSTON
and RICHARD W. STEVENSON
Published: October 28, 2005
WASHINGTON, Oct. 27 - Associates of I. Lewis Libby Jr., Vice President Dick Cheney's chief of staff, expected an indictment on Friday charging him with making false statements to the grand jury in the C.I.A. leak inquiry, lawyers in the case said Thursday.

http://www.nytimes.com/2005/10/28/politics/28leak.html?hp&ex=1130472000&en=f4b9e5edc0a35fdf&ei=5094&partner=homepage

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Aaron and breaking news on the CIA case. Frankenstein and "The Whip Around the World"

NEWSNIGHT WITH ANDERSON COOPER AND AARON BROWN.

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Aaron and Toobin

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Dana Bash and Miers - AGAIN.

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The Bigots are at it again. Day Two of Frank Bigotry.

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Honoring the Fallen. Average age 25.

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Honoring the Fallen - Average age 27

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Greenfield does not exist.

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Aaron and Miers and the Evangelical Pat Robertson. "She probably saw the handwriting on the wall." Why as Harriet pushed? "The Religious Right asked too much. They wanted perfection. I don't know if they will ever be that good." "It was the cronyism thing that killed it."

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Pat Robertson - Bigot of the Hour - Janice Rogers Brown - "The Democrats would not beat up on a Black Woman like they would a white male.

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Honor the Fallen - age 23

From the Transcipt:

Since the Religious Right is getting much of the blame or the credit, depending on your point of view, for the Miers' withdrawal, who better to talk about that than the founder of the Christian Coalition, the Reverend Pat Robertson. And we spoke with Reverend Robertson earlier today.

(BEGIN VIDEOTAPE)

BROWN: Reverend Robertson, do you think that Harriet Miers jumped or was pushed?

PAT ROBERTSON, FOUNDER, CHRISTIAN COALITION: I think a little of both. I think she's a very perceptive lady, so she probably saw the handwriting on the wall. It just looked like she didn't have the votes to get confirmed.BROWN: And the people who did the pushing are people who are in many respects, your political allies, your social religious allies -- why did they push her?

ROBERTSON: Well, I frankly, Aaron, think they were asking too much. They put requirements on that woman that nobody put on other candidates that I'm aware of over the last few decades. They asked impossible things. She's a very good lawyer. She's a terrific trial lawyer, and they just, I think they wanted perfection, which I'm not sure we'll ever find in America's judiciary.

BROWN: When you say they wanted too much, what is the it there? What is it that they wanted that they didn't get?

ROBERTSON: Well, if they want a litmus test of abortion or anti- abortion or whatever, no judge is going to give it to them. So I think they were asking more than they needed to get.

BROWN: If I was the president, I'd be a little annoyed with my political base because my political base has done me no favors in the last three or four weeks.

ROBERTSON: It was the cronyism thing that killed it. But I supported her. The president said okay, she's my choice and I had good things from her from Texas, so I said, okay, I'm onboard, let's go. But a lot of people were just vehement against her. I think it was unwarranted, some of the criticism.

BROWN: Did the White House botch it in that sense, in the selling of Ms. Miers?

ROBERTSON: Again, Aaron, you're back to that White House counsel business. You're back to a close aide of the president. And he had a whole plethora of excellent judges he could have selected -- excellent. On the other hand, there were those who said well maybe the president's ducking a fight. And you remember Pat Buchanan, who said well we need a bench clearing brawl. Well, I don't go for that.

BROWN: Here's what I hear you saying. Tell me if I'm reading too much into this.

ROBERTSON: All right, okay.

BROWN: That if you had been in position to make the choice, you'd have made a different choice?

ROBERTSON: Correct. BROWN: She didn't have the chops that you would have like to have seen in a Supreme Court nominee; but in a sense, you felt you owed the president one?

ROBERTSON: Not owed him one. I trusted him and I still trust him. I think his judicial philosophy has been right on point with what I believe. So I was all for it. If he said she's good, he'd known her for about 10 years, if he says she reflects my judicial philosophies, then that was fine with me.

BROWN: Do you think it was inappropriate to inject her religion, her religious background as a qualification for her nomination.

ROBERTSON: Yes, I do. I don't think that -- if we say it wasn't right to bring up the Catholicism of John Roberts, then we shouldn't have brought up the evangelical position of Harriet Miers. I think we ought to sell her on her judicial philosophy. I really believe that if she had gone before the committee and presented her views, she would have been confirmed. But she just thought it was too much heat and there were too many people who said we're not going to vote for you, on the Republican side of the aisle.But I -- as I say, Janice Rogers Brown -- she is brilliant. She is an African-American. She I think a sharecropper's daughter. It's rags to riches, an American success story. And she would make a superb Supreme Court, also brilliant.

BROWN: And you'd get your bench clearing brawl, whether you want one or not?

ROBERTSON: She might not have one. I can't imagine Ted Kennedy beating up on a black woman. Could you? He just wouldn't. It wouldn't play. He wouldn't mind beating up on a white male, but I don't know if he'd go after a black woman. I don't know if any of those Democrats would beat her up the way they would somebody else. So, I think if they did it would hurt them in the polls and they know that.

BROWN: Oh, I think there'd be a brawl.

Desensitizing the Jews - A new CNN directive.

In a new focus of compassion and to try and justify it's bigotry; CNN is using names affiliated with the Holocaust to presumably 'desensitize' Jews so they can compassionately be purged of that pain.

Baloney. I didn't know Jews were so dysfunctional in their lives. As a people they cannot seem to tie their shoe laces, huh? Bigots.

We will never forget, nor will the community ever be the same and that is the real lesson for the world, isn't it.

Today, Saturday, October 26, 2oo5. the use of a journalist, Gary Nurenberg is used in report from Washington, DC. He did a perfectly fine job of reporting. However, that name is a homonym to the Nuremberg Trials which prosecuted the Germans following the Holocaust.

TODAY, WEDNESDAY is nothing more than a reintroduction to the life and times of Anderson Cooper. A 'bill board' commerical without Aaron's picture and the re-introduction of the NewsNight program stating:

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Commercials. Aaron. Steak Fanatic Pizza from Dominos and you are discussing obesity? Because it is beef? Come on.

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The Vitale Murder.

Scott Deleski. Danaka died in a car accident. He never adjusted. Normal kid to withdrawal teenager. Yeah. Males don't necessarily grieve well at that age either. The tough part is that the parents are grieving as well and sometimes in poverty they are grieving a long time. Just like he was. He was depressed, Aaron. Not an excuse. And who knows about anti-depressants and teenagers. Hey, he wasn't on Paxil, was he?

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ANDERSON COOPER AND AARON BROWN was the intro and here we go again with age discrimination. It tracks with government television and the Wal-Mart initative and the changes occurring with the AFDC program in the country. In other words, why not farm out AFDC or whatever they call it now, to Wal-Mart for five years.

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David Mattingly again taped segment from previous hour. I'll have to look at my previous comments? "Hotels and clubs functioning?"

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Aaron is at his best and rightfully so but this is transient to build momentum back to Anderson and nothing else. Sorry. I don't see it that way.

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Fisher DeBerry taped and his regrets. Team suffered a thrashing this past weekend. Blacks are more athletic than whites.

The question is why are there so few Black Quarterbacks? I wonder if I am speaking out of turn. I haven't watched football in recent years. I think it is too violent. But, when I recall Black men playing football they are usually line backers, defense, receivers. I don't recall too many quarterbacks. DeBerry received a reprimand.

I CAN'T POST THIS YET. IT WILL ALARM AARON AND THAT IS NOT FAIR TO HIM. HE IS AS GOOD AS HE GETS AND I DON'T WANT TO HURT HIM. He can absorb it after the show if he likes.

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Jon Entine - "Taboo" - scary stuff to talk about human differences. We aren't talking about Black/White. Really? Body type and physiology over ten of thousand of years of …. What? They aren't sprinters? Wait a minute. You are all trying to water down the issue. I don't think so.

You are plagarizing Rush Limbaugh. "The Division of Labor" is below.

Are the NewsNight guests as well paid as their executive producers?

The Rasism of NewsNight is below and definately tries to recapture language from past sins of the Right and respin it into a new form of racism that can justify a social directive that will lead to the demise of the poor in this country including the Black Community as noted in New Orleans and the deliberate neglect of the Bush Administration allowing cronies to hold the safety at bay for the political favors to his friends.

THE words they are focusing on are Racism, Segregation, Slavery, Third Rail (We have heard this before from the media in regard to Social Security), Biologist, Genetics, Science, West Africans and African Americans. Many slaves came from the west coast of Africa and put on ships to The Sawth USA.

JON ENTINE, AUTHOR, TABOO: Race is a third rail in the United States. With our history of racism, segregation, slavery, we can't talk about these things. Even when the science is on the side of the coach, which it definitely is in this case; I don't think any biologist or geneticist would deny that. It's scary stuff to talk about human differences.

BROWN: In what sense is the science on the side of the coach?

ENTINE: Well, we're really not talking about a black/white issue here. And I think that really will I think drain some of the racist notions attached to this. This is about population genetics. This is about how different sub-populations and people of west African ancestry -- African Americans are primarily west African ancestry -- have a certain body type in physiology that's been shaped over tens of thousands of years of evolution. You take an east African, a Kenyon, who are great distance runners -- middle and long distance runners, they're terrible at the sprints. This is not a black/white issue. This is about what different populations, because of the way they evolved, might have certain advantages in certain kinds of sports. Whites in weight lifting and the field events -- in track and field, for instance.

BROWN: I mean, I don't know, I don't remember how long ago it was that Jimmy the Greek got in so much trouble with CBS, but there's a world of difference. I'm not sure Jimmy the Greek was correct. I don't remember precisely what he said. But there's a world of difference between what Jimmy the Greek said back then and what Al Campanis said. Al Campanis got in trouble for saying essentially black African Americans didn't have the intellectual -- I'm paraphrasing something here -- didn't have the intellectual abilities to manage in professional baseball.

ENTINE: Yes, Jimmy the Greek said that blacks were bread to be better athletes because of slavery, which sounds attractive; and frankly, I think many African Americans believe that as truth. But that's not accurate as well. But there is a difference. Because Al Campanis said something that is blatantly racist. On the other hand, Jimmy the Greek, although he was wrong, kind of got the idea correct, which is that there are differences and we can see them. Human differences are difficult to talk about.

BROWN: Do you think that the coach out at Air Force was at least inelegant in the way he said something.

ENTINE: Oh, oh absolutely. But let's step back a second. Put him in the context of his locker room where the black players and the white players talk about this all the time. I've talked to dozens and dozens of athletes. And to talk about these things in a joking or a serious way is just part of the locker room. So he's taking that kind of framework and he's talking about it in public. Was he inelegant? Of course. And he put it in black and white terms because I don't know if he's aware of the fact of the differences between let's say west and east African athletes as an example. Absolutely. There's a crudeness for this. But again, the guy was hung out to dry. I know he's not going to end up resigning because there's a little bit of sanity here. But this has gotten people in trouble for years and years and years and all it does is discourage people from talking about these issues without invoking racism at every turn.

(END VIDEOTAPE)

BROWN: Joe Entine. Coming up on the program, the CIA leak. Will top White House officials really risk everything to discredit Joe Wilson? We'll take a closer look at Mr. Wilson.

Hey, Joe. Who's the crudest now?

Quarterbacks and the Division of Labor
by Gary North

Rush Limbaugh got into a lot of hot water for his comment that Donovan McNabb is an overrated quarterback. He said that the media overrate him because he is black.
I have not seen McNabb play. I have seen exactly one pro football game since the day Joe Namath put it to the Baltimore Colts. That was Superbowl III. You get the idea. But even I know that great black pro quarterbacks are almost as rare as white players of the year in the NBA.
The reason for this should be obvious to anyone who has read Chapter One of Adam Smith's Wealth of Nations. He who specializes gains an advantage in production.
West Africans and their descendants are better performers than whites in sports that involve running short distances. The last time a white guy won the 100-meter dash at the Olympics was in 1972, and he was a Russian. Meanwhile, East Africans in the border region of Ethiopia and Kenya are dominant from 800 meters to 10,000 meters. Anyone who bets against these genetic facts in an Olympic track event is going to lose his money – immediately in every event below 800 meters.
I know this much: the odds are long against a white guy's winning either the 100-meter, 200-meter, or 400-meter races at next year's Olympics. The odds are about as long as an AWB in the NFL: all white backfield. I could check the odds with Jimmy the Greek, but I don't gamble.

http://www.lewrockwell.com/north/north215.html

You are all a bunch of bigots. Sorry, Aaron, I can't let everyone else down even if you don't mind.

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Joe Johns and the Plame Affair. See the way I see it. I don't expect anyone to hang for the incident. Bush will pardon them. IF there is no indictment KNOWN to the public because the pardons occurred before it was ever made public then Bush will seek an apology from everyone including any Democrat in the area. It will be interesting if there actually is justice in this country rather than still another cover up.

I don't think your facts are at all correct.

TRY THIS ON FOR THE TRUTH.

Powell "(Saddam) has not developed any significant capacity of WMD....

... He is unable to project any conventional weapons against his neighbors.
Rice for NSA on CNN with John King :: "We are able to keep weapons from him."

Click on the Video

http://www.thememoryhole.org/war/powell-no-wmd.htm

THE STORY IN 2001 WAS COMPLETELY DIFFERENT.

In February 2003, Powell said: "We know that Saddam Hussein is determined to keep his weapons of mass destruction, is determined to make more."

But two years earlier, Powell said just the opposite. The occasion was a press conference on 24 February 2001 during Powell's visit to Cairo, Egypt. Answering a question about the US-led sanctions against Iraq, the Secretary of State said:

We had a good discussion, the Foreign Minister and I and the President and I, had a good discussion about the nature of the sanctions -- the fact that the sanctions exist -- not for the purpose of hurting the Iraqi people, but for the purpose of keeping in check Saddam Hussein's ambitions toward developing weapons of mass destruction. We should constantly be reviewing our policies, constantly be looking at those sanctions to make sure that they are directed toward that purpose. That purpose is every bit as important now as it was ten years ago when we began it. And frankly they have worked. He has not developed any significant capability with respect to weapons of mass destruction. He is unable to project conventional power against his neighbors. So in effect, our policies have strengthened the security of the neighbors of Iraq...

NOW TELL MY WHY Valerie Plame was outed.

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Aaron taped and "The War Within" - controversy. Really.

A September 11th film. I won't go see it. It's endorsed by this program and at this point I can't say it is worth the time and I my trust in this programming at this hour is marginal. It seems Anti-Muslim and I just can't. It's another form of bigotry. I guess it's a curiosity film but I think it will do a lot of damage.

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Christian Science Monitor

Once again The Christian Science Monitor paints the Jews in an adverse and greedy light.

Troubled season for Gaza's greenhouses

Palestinians struggle to restart a thriving settlers' business amid poor security.
By Joshua Mitnick Correspondent of The Christian Science Monitor NETZER HAZANI, GAZA – Rows of irrigation hoses run across the bare sand floor of a greenhouse shell in this former Jewish settlement.
But as Hatem Awad prepares to plant the first crop of tomatoes since Israel handed these plantations over to the Palestinians last month, he is troubled by rips in the sheeting covering the metal greenhouse frame.

Perhaps they should have featured, "Haaretz" as well. This is from October 27, 2005

Haaretz

All this mess with Syria is stirring the pot every place. Islamic Jihad and Hezbollah are the same beliefs with different leaders. Any reason is going to spark violence again. Poor diplomacy doesn't help. Hezbollah has a extensive vested interest in the Syrian leadership. They will literally have to stop their violence, which I would think the other Arab nations would see as beneficial, if the Syrian government is removed. Syria put themselves in a very precarious position. But, to some extent it was impossible for Syria to avoid that role with such a high population of Hezbollah both in that country and Lebanon. Israel is going to be a difficult country to deal with until the Syrian circumstances resolve.

Islamic Jihad vows to avenge killing of West Bank leader

By Nir Hasson, Arnon Regular and Jonathan Lis

Islamic Jihad yesterday threatened to avenge Monday's killing of senior West Bank leader Luay Sa'adi as tens of thousands of Palestinian mourners buried him yesterday morning in Tul Karm.Sa'adi was killed during a shootout with Israel Defense Forces troops, sparking a new round of violence.

http://www.haaretz.com/hasen/spages/637745.html

Hamas: Free prisoners, or we'll abduct more Israelis

By Arnon Regular, Haaretz Correspondent

Hamas will increase the number of kidnappings of Israelis if Israel does not release Palestinian prisoners, the leader of Hamas in the Gaza Strip, Dr. Mahmoud Zahar, told Haaretz this week.He added that the group will not extend its participation in a cease-fire among Palestinian organizations beyond the end of 2005 if the Palestinian Authority reneges on its promise to hold elections in January.Speaking at his home in Gaza, rebuilt after an Israeli Air Force targeted assassination attempt in October 2003 - in which his son and bodyguard were killed - Zahar granted his first comprehensive interview with Israeli media since last year's targeted killing of Hamas leaders Sheikh Ahmed Yassin and Abdel Aziz Rantisi.

http://www.haaretz.com/hasen/spages/637776.html

Defense panel head: Hamas reaching military parity with PA

By Aluf Benn and Yoav Stern,

Haaretz Correspondents, Haaretz Service and The Associated PressMK

Yuval Steinitz, chairman of the Knesset Foreign Affairs and Defense Committee, on Wednesday called on Defense Minister Shaul Mofaz to tell the Egyptians that Cairo was not meeting its obligation to keep Palestinians from smuggling weapons into the Gaza Strip. He warned that the arms reaching Gaza were helping Hamas reach military parity with the Palestinian Authority.Mofaz was to meet with Egyptian President Hosni Mubarak in Cairo on Wednesday to discuss reopening the Rafah border crossing. Egyptian Intelligence and Defense Ministers Omar Suleiman and Mohamed Hussein Tantawi will also attend the meeting.

http://www.haaretz.com/hasen/spages/637717.html

IAF missile hits Gaza in wake of rocket fire; crossings reopened

By Nir Hasson, Arnon Regular and Jonathan Lis,

Haaretz Correspondents, and AgenciesThe Erez and Karni crossings in the Gaza Strip were reopened Wednesday, two days after they were closed in the wake of rocket fire from the Strip, Israel Radio reported.Early Wednesday, an Israel Air Force aircraft fired at least one missile at an open field in the northern Gaza Strip early Wednesday, about two hours after Palestinian militants launched a homemade rocket into the Negev town of Sderot.

http://www.haaretz.com/hasen/spages/637737.html

Lift the siege of Gaza

Supporters of disengagement in Israel and around the world feel cheated. After the determined and sensitive withdrawal from the Gush Katif settlements, the government of Israel is avoiding the necessary follow-up steps, and is imposing a choking air, sea and land blockade against the Gaza Strip's residents.This complaint has been voiced not only by the Palestinians, but also by James Wolfensohn, the Quartet's envoy for disengagement, in a letter last week to the Quartet's foreign ministers and the United Nations secretary-general.

http://www.haaretz.com/hasen/spages/637766.html

The Examiner in Washington
The Des Moines Register

THEY CAN'T HELP THEMSELVES. THEY ARE HORRIBLE PEOPLE. But then so were the Nazis.

October 27, 2005 - 5;22 am - The transcript from CNN's NewsNight Bigot Staff is still incomplete as they are trying to avoid the validation of above.

Transcript to date below :

Two Days Remain For Grand Jury to Indict in CIA Leak Case; What to Expect From Avian Flu; Wal-Mart Under Fire Over Health Plan
Aired October 26, 2005 - 22:00 ET

THIS IS A RUSH TRANSCRIPT. THIS COPY MAY NOT BE IN ITS FINAL FORM AND MAY BE UPDATED

AARON BROWN, CNN ANCHOR: Good evening again, everyone.High anxiety at the White House, as the grand jury's deadline approaches.

(BEGIN VIDEOTAPE)

ANNOUNCER: Countdown, as tension ratchets up at the White House -- only two days remain for the grand jury to indict in the CIA leak case.

SCOTT MCCLELLAN, WHITE HOUSE PRESS SECRETARY: It remains an ongoing investigation. And we will let the special prosecutor continue to do his work.

ANNOUNCER: What it means to all the president's men. As the avian flu continues to spread around the world, Dr. Sanjay Gupta goes to Thailand, the heart of the outbreak, to tell us what to expect and when. Wal-Mart, America's biggest retailer, 1.3 million employees, and, today, another serious image problem.

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: There's nothing more than rampant corporate greed that moves their every move.

ANNOUNCER: Tonight, a company memo you were never supposed to see, and critics contending Wal-Mart is trading profits for the health of its own employees.

(END VIDEOTAPE)

ANNOUNCER: This is NEWSNIGHT WITH AARON BROWN AND ANDERSON COOPER. Live from the CNN Broadcast Center in New York, here's Aaron Brown.BROWN: Well, good evening, again -- Anderson off this week. We have much to cover tonight. First, here are some of the stories we are following at this moment. A jury has ruled that the Port Authority of New York and New Jersey, the operators of the World Trade Center, dropped the ball on security and were negligent in the first bombing of the Twin Towers in 1993. Victims and their families can now sue for damages. In Florida, after Wilma, little brother takes the heat. Jeb Bush, the governor, says the state, not FEMA, is responsible for any distribution problems that held up relief supplies. The governor says that, all things considered -- quote -- "We're doing a good job."President Bush at a Washington luncheon serving up budget cuts today. U.S. federal debt has now topped $8 trillion, $2 trillion coming under the president's watch -- Mr. Bush talking up the possibility of cuts across the board. And, in Iraq, Saddam Hussein's attorneys fear for their lives. With the murder of a co-defendant's lawyer still unsolved, the remaining attorneys no longer trust the United States or the new Iraqi government to protect them. So, they're suspending contact with the special tribunal, putting the trial of Saddam in some jeopardy. But we begin tonight in Louisiana, where the attorney general of the state wants answers to a simple, but chilling question. Did employees at a hospital euthanize dozens of patients in the days after Hurricane Katrina? He was hoping people who may know something about these allegations of mercy killings would come forward. They have not. And he's not waiting anymore. This is the story we have been looking at now for several weeks. CNN's Drew Griffin is back in New Orleans. Drew, good evening.

DREW GRIFFIN, CNN INVESTIGATIVE CORRESPONDENT: Good evening, Aaron. And this investigation has been ratcheted up tonight, as CNN learned 73 subpoenas have been issued by the attorney general to employees of Memorial Hospital, Tenet Healthcare's hospital here in New Orleans -- those subpoenas to bring people before investigators to answer that question: Was euthanasia enacted in that hospital in the days after Katrina, when there was so much chaos going on in this city? The attorney general has been trying to get cooperation from Tenet Healthcare and from employees at Memorial Hospital to answer those questions. But, late this afternoon, he told me this, that: "Cooperation lately has not been as good as I had hoped. And they" -- meaning Tenet -- "seem to be in a position of protecting themselves, while we are just trying to get to the facts of what happened at the hospital. We had no choice but to issue these subpoenas" -- again, those subpoenas going out to 73 employees of Memorial Hospital here in New Orleans to answer the question, were there mercy killings going on in that hospital? -- Aaron.

BROWN: Just two things, or -- at least. First, what does Memorial say in response to all of this?

GRIFFIN: Tenet Healthcare says that it is cooperating. In fact, they issued a statement tonight from its spokesman, saying: "We have never discouraged any employee from working with the Louisiana attorney general's office. In fact, we know some have already spoken to his representatives and we have been cooperating with the attorney general's office and spoken regularly about the employee interviews."But, Aaron, we have a memo that Tenet sent out to its employees, the memo that I have in my hand, advising them of their rights. And the first right is that they do not have to discuss this case with anybody, that they have a right to an attorney, and that Tenet would bring them an attorney if they needed one, and they do not have to talk to the attorney general, if they don't want to. The attorney general told me, that, he thought, was a chilling effect on his investigation, which is why he has issued these subpoenas in this case.

BROWN: Well, that's an interesting thing for people to ponder, whether advising people that they have the right to an attorney is chilling or not chilling. Just the allegation itself that these mercy killings may have happened -- I don't think anybody says exactly that they did happen, but just that there was talk of it. Is that correct?

GRIFFIN: That is what CNN reported two weeks ago, that there was some nurses and a doctor who came forward and told CNN that there was talk going on inside that hospital of possible mercy killings. Nobody that we have talked to saw anything. One doctor told us, Dr. Bryant King, that he saw a woman with a handful of needles and then he left after that. But that is exactly what the attorney general is trying to find out. Did the talk of euthanasia go beyond talk and did it, indeed, happen? Autopsies have been conducted. And now they're waiting for toxicology results on some of those bodies that came out of that hospital.

BROWN: And there were a lot of -- actually, there -- there -- as I recall, there were 40-some people, give or take, who died at the hospital or who were found dead at the hospital. Some may have died before the hurricane and some during it. Do we know how many -- how many people are they looking at as possible victims here?

GRIFFIN: I don't have the exact numbers for you. And this is why, because those bodies were in such a badly decomposed state that they don't really know when exactly all these people died. According to the hospital, 45 bodies were removed. I believe some 23 or so, the hospital says, were already dead or dying before that hurricane struck. And the bodies were simply stored there, because they can't be removed. What happened after that, how many died in the aftermath, how many died when their ventilators simply were turned off because the electricity went off, we don't know exactly. We're waiting for a coroner to release results, for the autopsies to be released, and that ever-important toxicology report, which would, apparently, show us what was inside the bodies of those victims prior to their death.

BROWN: Drew, thank you. And we await that. There's much more here. Thank you very much, Drew Griffin, in New Orleans tonight. From Katrina to Wilma, the -- in Florida, the lights are back on. Some 2.5 million customers, though, are spending another night in the dark, less than last night, but still a lot of people. Power company crews are struggling to fix lines that went down during Hurricane Wilma. And officials say it will be more than a week before most of the power in the state is back on. In the meantime, people are doing what they do, struggling to get by. Here's CNN's John Zarrella.

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JOHN ZARRELLA, CNN MIAMI BUREAU CHIEF (voice-over): The lobby kitchen is the only place Arcady Chase can get hot water for his wife. Then, it's a 19-floor walk back up to their condominium apartment.

ARCADY CHASE, RESIDENT OF FLORIDA: It's not a pleasant experience, to be honest with you. But it's not the end of the world either.

ZARRELLA: No power, no water -- it's been tough. Neighbors down the hall lost a lot more -- windows and walls blown out. But the couple, who lived through World War II in the former Soviet Union, have seen bigger hardships.

A. CHASE: Going through that, you know, as a child, having hardly anything to eat, and we used to live in lot worse than what (UNINTELLIGIBLE) that -- a lot of people here.

ZARRELLA: The view from the Chases' Hollywood Beach apartment is stunning -- when there's no here raging outside. But Arcady and Zina aren't sure it's worth it.

ZINA CHASE, RESIDENT OF FLORIDA: We will discuss this, definitely.

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ZARRELLA (on camera): I was going to say, you must be...

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Z. CHASE: Maybe go on the fourth floor.

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Z. CHASE: Because I can walk down.

ZARRELLA (voice-over): In the town of Davie, 15 miles away, Juan (ph) and Dulsay Castallanos (ph) carry buckets of water to their apartment for bathing. Down at the complex clubhouse, people are grilling. Propane is the only power here. Virginia Muley (ph) is crying while she sits and waits for something to eat. The only way to get by here is neighbor helping neighbor. Robert Kessler is on his way to help out an elderly woman who lives alone.

ROBERT KESSLER, RESIDENT OF FLORIDA: Like a second mother. So, you got to take care of these people that can't take care of themselves. You know, who is going to do it? Everybody -- no buses are running. It's just nice to have a nice warm meal.

ZARRELLA: In Broward County alone, more than 800,000 people are without electricity. Florida power crews are used to responding to hurricanes, but have never seen anything this widespread, taking down so much infrastructure.

STEVE ALLEN, FLORIDA POWER & LIGHT: We're replacing that bolt and putting the wire back up. And that's -- and then a priority customer on this feeder to get a hospital back up just a couple blocks up the street.

ZARRELLA: There are signs things are getting better. Overhead, a C-5A cargo plane, that means the airport is open and relief supplies are coming in.

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ZARRELLA: Here on a Hollywood Beach, you can see, some of the lights are coming back on, good news for the people here. But, clearly, the number-one priority in Florida is electricity, getting the power back on. No power, gas stations can't pump fuel. The water plants can't get any water pressure. Many people in the -- in Dade County, my -- Broward County and Palm Beach County without any water pressure. Boil-order water is one of the priorities here, too. So, at this point, Aaron, it's electricity. And, quite honestly, one of the -- one of the emergency operations folks I talked to today told me that, it may be hard to believe, but this storm has been more of more of -- has had more of a widespread impact than Hurricane Andrew did, which was a Category 5 in 1992, but so many more people affected from Wilma because it is so, so much bigger -- Aaron.

BROWN: John, thank you -- John Zarrella in South Florida tonight. To a storm of a different sort. We don't know their names. We have never actually seen their faces. But, right now, they're among the most powerful players in Washington. We're talking about members of the federal grand jury investigating the leak of a CIA operative's identity. Tonight, they very likely know something the rest of us don't, at least not yet -- their two-year tour of duty set to expire at the end of the month, at Friday. Indictments, if they come, could well come tomorrow. And, by tomorrow at this time, it is certainly a possibility that Karl Rove and the vice president's chief of staff, Scooter Libby, could stand accused of felonies. Today, the White House tried to downplay the whole thing, which is hard to do when so much is at stake. Here's CNN's Candy Crowley.

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CANDY CROWLEY, CNN SENIOR POLITICAL CORRESPONDENT (voice-over): Just another day at the office, except for those TV crews outside the house and the threat of indictment in the air. Karl Rove and Lewis Libby, top aides to the vice president and vice president, put on their best game faces Wednesday and went to work. They were seen only briefly from time to time and heard not at all, while the city around them talks of little else.

QUESTION: What's the anxiety level like here at the White House? What is the atmosphere in the hallway?

SCOTT MCCLELLAN, WHITE HOUSE PRESS SECRETARY: Well, first of all -- and there's a lot of speculation going around. And I think there are a lot of facts that simply are not known at this point.

CROWLEY: Still, even as the president puts on his best A-OK face, the White House has been thinking about the facts as they may turn out to be and how to best protect the president. An Armageddon strategy is already partially in play at the White House turned wait house.

MCCLELLAN: We have got a lot of work to do. And, so, we don't have a lot of time to sit back and think about those things. We are -- we are focusing on what the American people care most about.

CROWLEY: The portrait being painted is a man on the job with no time to worry whether his closest adviser might have to leave his, a president busy talking up his domestic agenda.

MCCLELLAN: We are working on the priorities that the American people care about.

CROWLEY: The leader of the free world busy talking to the U.S. ambassador to Iraq, the prime minister of Macedonia.

GEORGE W. BUSH, PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES: We are grateful for the strong support that you have given in our efforts to win the war on terror.

MCCLELLAN: In terms of the White House, this White House is focused on the priorities of the American people.

CROWLEY: It is assumed that, if anyone is indicted, he or they will resign. The president will make note of the ongoing judicial process and then -- um, how to put this -- focus on what the American people care about. Despite all the busyness, some White House aides admit they are weary with the waiting. No matter what it looks like, this is not just another day at the office. Candy Crowley, CNN, Washington.

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BROWN: Still to come tonight , from the CIA leak to a CIA agent exposed and the implications that rise from it all. And, later, obesity costs billions of dollars and is cutting quantity and quality of life in the country. So, why do Americans refuse to lose, as it were?We will take a break. This is NEWSNIGHT on CNN.

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BROWN: Sometimes, we can all forget that this isn't simply a political story. It is about something else. Valerie Plame at one time in her life was an undercover CIA operative, and her cover was blown. And there are implications for that, that extend far beyond the sometimes petty give-and-take of Washington politics. Here's CNN's David Ensor.

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DAVID ENSOR, CNN NATIONAL SECURITY CORRESPONDENT (voice-over): Forty-two-year-old Valerie Plame Wilson, whose husband referred to her as "Jane Bond," is clearly now the most famous female spy in America. Exposing her as a CIA undercover officer did damage to U.S. intelligence, U.S. officials say. They refuse to be more specific.

SCHEUER, FORMER CIA ANALYST: To have someone exposed deliberately and, on top of that, for a political reason, I -- I think, yes, it probably sent a chill throughout the clandestine service.

ENSOR: What made it worse is that she was not just an undercover officer. She spent part of her 20-year career as a NOC, a spy with non-official cover, that is, without the protection of diplomatic status. She was working, officials say, to recruit foreigners who knew about murky international deals involving weapons of mass destruction. But potential foreign agents, potential spies, have now seen a CIA officer apparently betrayed by officials in her own government.

JAMES MARCINKOWSKI, FORMER CIA OFFICER: The issue here is, how are you going to tell that agent that their identity is going to be protected, when this government can't protect the home team? ENSOR: And if any other CIA officers used the same cover as Plame, their work is in jeopardy, too. That cover was Brewster Jennings Associates, an energy consulting firm, a front company that apparently had no real address. NOCs are harder to train, can remain undercover longer than conventional spies, and can go places and meet people that other CIA officers cannot. Some of them, like Plame, use loose cover, a false job. Others under deep cover use false names as well, complete fictional identities with forged documents, even disguises.But NOCs are also much more vulnerable than regular spies. And intelligence sources developed by a CIA undercover officer are immediately in question if that officer is exposed.

JOHN MCLAUGHLIN, CNN NATIONAL SECURITY ADVISER: The consequences for the U.S. government can range from embarrassment to having to pull the source out of an area because they have become jeopardized by this knowledge.

ENSOR: After her name appeared in Robert Novak's newspaper column, at least two foreign governments reportedly assigned their spy-catchers to figure out whether Plame had ever worked on their soil, and, if so, what she'd done there. (on camera): And that is where the most damage likely done, other nations tracking down Valerie Plame-Wilson's contacts and sources and shutting them down. David Ensor, CNN, Washington.

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BROWN: Perhaps tomorrow is the day. A quick look at some of the other stories that made news on this day. Erica Hill joins us from Atlanta for that. Good evening, Ms. Hill.

ERICA HILL, HEADLINE NEWS CORRESPONDENT: And good evening to you, Mr. Brown. We start off tonight in Cancun, Mexico, where at least 8,000 Americans are still stranded on their vacation, though they probably wouldn't be calling it vacation these days. Six days after Wilma hit there, thousands of desperate tourists still waiting outside airports and tour offices, as officials scramble to evacuate some 22,000 people with just 6,000 airline seats available each day. In Washington, the Agriculture Department says it is stepping up testing for bird flu here in the U.S., but it didn't say exactly where or just how many. The agency, though, does already do spot checks on chicken farms and in migratory birds. The U.S. is the world's largest producer and exporter of poultry meat. In Australia, about 130 long-finned pilot whale have died after becoming stranded on a remote beach near Marion Bay. That's on the southern island state of Tanzania. Officials tried rescuing the whales, but only succeeded in saving 10 of them. And, finally, we will lighten it up a little bit. It looks like King Tut liked to nip at the cooking sherry. All right, fine. It wasn't sherry. It was red wine. But researchers, they did already know he was a wine lover, but they didn't know that he preferred red until now. Researchers -- a researcher, that is, at the British museum made her discovery after inventing a process that give archaeologists a tool to discover the color of ancient wine. The wine bottles from the king's time were labeled with the name of the product, the year of the harvest, the source, the vine grower, but, Aaron, the one thing missing, the color. But now we know, he was a red guy. I'm kind of a red girl. So, there you go.

BROWN: I think that falls into the category or knowledge for knowledge's stake.

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HILL: It's a good dinner party thing to pull out.

BROWN: Thank you. Yes. You drink just like King Tut.

HILL: There you go.

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BROWN: Thank you very much. See you in a half-an-hour.Coming up, making sense out of all those stories about bird flu, what you really need to know -- a report from Asia, ground zero for the virus. And the accused killer of Pamela Vitale, the wife of a famous San Francisco defense attorney -- new details about the suspect's background and his journey from Scout to Goth. From Thailand and California, from New York and around the world, this is NEWSNIGHT.

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BROWN: Bird flu continues its march west, it seems. Today, authorities in Croatia confirmed that wild swans found dead there were killed by the virus. They're disinfecting cars now, to be on the safe side. Bird flu is a confusing story for most of us. People have been infected, as you just heard, 121. Sixty-plus have died, though we hear it hasn't made the leap from animals to humans. It seems, every day, comes word of another outbreak. But the victims are usually birds, ducks or, as we reported earlier this week, a parrot in Britain. So, are we just scaring ourselves and scaring you? What should we be listening for? What would be the tipping point? To help us make sense of all of this, we sent CNN's Dr. Sanjay Gupta to Asia, which is ground zero for bird flu. Tonight, he's in Bangkok, Thailand.And we talked with him a short time ago.

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BROWN: Doc, what have you seen in your time in Thailand that's -- that's caught your -- caught your eye, your medical eye?

DR. SANJAY GUPTA, CNN SENIOR MEDICAL CORRESPONDENT: You know, this is a country that has one of the strongest surveillance systems in the entire region here. So, it's a -- it's a good model to actually look at. What we saw is, there wasn't a -- a human case of bird flu for more than a year. And then, suddenly, a 48-year-old man caught the virus, got sick, died of it. His 7-year-old confirmed to have bird flu -- so, we have seen new cases for the first time now this month. Now, there are some more suspected, several more suspected cases in that region as well. So, what we're seeing here is -- is probably, in some ways, a predictable pattern. Bird flu in -- in humans went away for a little bit in Thailand, but has now come back. We also -- what was interesting to me, Aaron, just geographically, I -- I went to the northeastern province of Thailand. And you have the Mekong River. And just across that is Lao. You can see Lao. And that -- that country basically has, really, no public health system to speak of. And migratory birds are constantly passing over. They don't respect the border here.So, you get a sense of just how difficult it is to try and control a virus that is spread by birds -- Aaron.

BROWN: At -- at -- at some level, it's one thing for each individual country, for Thailand to have a good system -- and you will tell us how good a system they have for dealing with this -- but, in the end, this is, at very least, a regional problem, if not a literally a global problem.

GUPTA: At least in humans, right now, it appears to be, Aaron, a regional problem, in -- in terms of bird flu actually getting into human beings. Obviously, the big concern -- you and I have talked about that -- is, that could change, that it's not just a regional problem, but the bird flu starts spreading in human beings around the world. But, you know, in -- in Thailand, they -- they appear to be pretty good. You know, for example, we -- we went to this -- this village where the -- where the man, the 48-year-old man, actually died there. But, when we got there, and we were leaving, they actually were spraying us down. We wore these boots and wore these masks and caps and everything. And then they sprayed us down with this bleach-like substance. You know, I mean, everyone is thinking about bird flu here. And they're trying to prevent the spread from one farm to another, from one region or province to another province. And it's -- it's really on the public consciousness out here.

BROWN: To -- to what extent do you think the region's experience with SARS has contributed in any way to its responses and reactions to the possibilities of bird flu?

GUPTA: I think SARS, in so many ways, was a -- probably a pretty good test run for them. It was -- I mean, the surveillance for SARS was probably -- ended up being the most critically important thing, trying to catch these cases before they could start to spread, before people could hitch rides on planes and travel around the world. It -- it still made it, you know, in several places around the world, as you well know. So, I -- I think, you know, they -- they just -- there's vaccine. There's no medicine that's absolutely proven to work against avian flu. So, prevention and surveillance is really the name of the game here. And they're just trying to get better and better at it -- at that, making sure the systems within the various provinces are actually communicating about avian flu.

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BROWN: Dr. Sanjay Gupta, who is in Bangkok, Thailand. Still to come tonight, is Wal-Mart trying to maintain a healthy bottom line by rejecting workers who aren't in tiptop shape? If so, does that amount to discrimination? And accusations of mercy killings at a New Orleans hospital -- we will have more on the demand for answers, as we continue.From New York, this is NEWSNIGHT.

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BROWN: We'll, look into Wal-Mart's latest controversy in a moment. First, here's a quick look at what's happening in this moment. The investigation into the leak of a CIA operative's name moves forward. The special prosecutor Patrick Fitzgerald admits he met with the district court chief judge for about 45 minutes today. But Mr. Fitzgerald is being tight lipped to say the least about what was discussed.In New York, a jury found the Port Authority of New York and New Jersey negligent in the 1993 bombing of the World Trade Center. The '93 bombing. It says the Port Authority which built and operated the World Trade Center failed to properly guard the parking garage where terrorists set off explosives in a rented van. Six people died that day. Thousands of others were hurt. This clears the way for victims and families to sue for damages.And in New Orleans, accusations of mercy killings at Memorial Hospital. Louisiana's attorney general issued 73 subpoenas to hospital employees. He wants more answers that he's been getting.Two days after Hurricane Wilma, battered Florida, utility crews working to restore electricity to 2.5 million customers, meantime, hundreds of residents are waiting in long lines for the basics, food, water, and gasoline.Wal-Mart, the 900-pound gorilla of corporate America is kicking around some unorthodox ideas. Some critics say they're ruthless ideas in an effort to hold down benefit costs. Specifically, healthcare. They come in internal memo to the company's board of directors. CNN has obtained copy. Among the bold steps, touted in the memo, discouraging unhealthy people to apply for jobs at Wal-Mart in the first place. Here's more from CNN's Adaora Udoji.

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ADAORA UDOJI, CNN CORRESPONDENT (voice-over): The sometimes controversial megastore chain Wal-Mart prides itself on family values. But critics charge an internal company memo, one you were never meant to see, shows the nation's largest private employer caring more about its public relation woes and profits than its 1 million plus employees.

TRACY SEFL, WAL-MART WATCH: What this memo reveals is essentially there's nothing more than rampant corporate greed that woos their every move.

UDOJI: The memo about healthcare costs and other benefit which is the company says was a draft was leaked to a watchdog group critical of Wal-Mart. In the document, a Wal-Mart executive says, quote, "our workers are getting sicker than the national population, particularly in obesity-related diseases."Healthcare to the tune $1.5 billion the past three years is a major reason for rapidly rising benefit costs, it says. Among several solutions to hold it down, the executive writes, quote - "Given the significant savings from even a small improvement in the health of our Associate base, Wal-Mart should seek to attract a healthier workforce to design all jobs to include some physical activity as well as better informing their workforce."Does that mean Wal-Mart wants younger and more able bodied employees? The memo's author says, no.

SUSAN CHAMBERS, EVP, WAL-MART: We are very interested in encouraging more healthy lifestyle choices, if you will. As an employer we believe the way to do that providing information raising awareness and certainly offering choices that make for healthy lifestyle.

UDOJI: Wal-Mart benefits executives Susan Chambers says the company already offers roughly 18 different health plans to employees across the country in 3,600 stores which they're trying to improve. In response to the leak, the company released its own official copy of the memo.(on camera): But critics point out, as the company's memo does, that nearly half of employees' children without medical insurance or are covered by taxpayer welfare dollars. And another concern is spousal coverage. It's expensive and the company wants to minimize it.(voice-over): Wal-Mart pulled in over $10 billion in profits last year so critics say it can do more for the people that help to them there.

SEFL: They can stand to pay more for the health benefits but instead trying to cut corners and they're doing it on the backs of the lowest paid workers.

UDOJI: Wal-Mart maintained the grappling with complex health issues with both employees and the company's interest in mind. Critics say it's not what Wal-Mart says but what the company does and they are not convinced it is enough.

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UDOJI (on camera): And an interesting point that both the critics and Wal-Mart will agree on, at least in part, Aaron, is that Wal-Mart is so enormous, 1.3 million employees, it reflects really the greater country in which case that they could pick on trends quickly which is why to many companies are paying attention to how they deal with the very difficult problem of health insurance.

BROWN: There's -- I mean, look at the auto industry. There is no question that healthcare costs an enormous burden for many industries and Wal-Mart is peculiar. How does, if you know, how does Wal-Mart compare to like businesses? The other warehouse businesses, Costco for example, in providing healthcare?

UDOJI: They would say ...

BROWN: They being?UDOJI: They, being Wal-Mart, would say their benefits are far more generous than some of those other packages. Wal-Mart Watch, the watchdog group would say that's not the case. And that this memo is reflective of the fact that they're doing nothing but trying to cut benefits to their employees.BROWN: It's a great -- the whole Wal-Mart story is a very rich and complicated story. Wal-Mart Watch is an union funded group, right?

UDOJI: Correct. Set up about six months ago.BROWN: And they're struggling to get into Wal-Mart, they would like to organize. Thank you. There's more on this. Wal-Mart's memo notes that its associates, as its salespeople are called, are getting sicker than the national population at large. Especially in obesity- related disease which include diabetes, and coronary artery disease, heart disease. Yet across America, more and more people fighting fat. Here's CNN's Elizabeth Cohen.

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ELIZABETH COHEN, CNN CORRESPONDENT (voice-over): Some might say that being fat in this country is becoming part of American life. After all, 30 percent of U.S. adults aged 20 and older are obese. That's 60 million people. That's almost twice the population of Canada. Or the entire population of the United Kingdom.And it may not be just a matter of too many adults visiting the fast food drive through. Since 1980, obesity rates tripled among children and doubled among adolescents, according to the Institute of Medicine. But the concerns are far greater than just the number of people who need to lose weight. According to the surgeon general, the cost of obesity in the United States in 2000 was greater than $117 billion, spent on everything from direct medical costs such as tests and treatment to decreased productivity and premature death, all stemming from obesity.

ART CAPLAN, BIOETHICS CENTER, UNIVERSITY OF PA: There's no doubt that obesity is a very expensive factor within American healthcare. Billions and billions and billions of dollars are spent because of diseases related to being overweight. So, it is expensive. It drives up premiums.

COHEN: The National Business Group on Health estimates that companies spend $13 billion per year for higher costs, such as inpatient and outpatient pending and more medication. All in all they say an obese employee is 11 percent more in healthcare costs than a non-obese employee.So being fat in America is becoming more common and costing everyone more money in healthcare costs but exactly what are the specific dangers?There are at least 15 chronic conditions including high blood pressure, high cholesterol, increased risk of heart disease, type 2 diabetes, stroke, gallbladder disease, sleep apnea and some cancers, all leading to shorter lives and longer illnesses all linked to obesity. For sure, the list is long and the detriment of obesity well proven but Americans aren't shedding the pounds, nor perhaps listening to the health messages. Elizabeth Cohen, CNN, Atlanta.

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BROWN: So coming up on the program, the debate over obesity and Wal-Mart. Who's to blame, who's to pay? Are Wal-Mart's corporate musings a taste of what's to come for overweight Americans? We'll talk about that when we come back.And a controversy in black and white. Do comments made by a college football coach about natural ability in certain athletes go too far? Break first.
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BROWN: Wal-Mart as we mentioned and surely you know not the only company getting squeezed by soaring healthcare costs and as you just heard many doctors say a slice of the increase goes towards treating Obesity-related diseases. When companies hire new workers, they can't discriminate on the basis of age or race or gender. But in a super sized America, what about obesity?We're joined tonight by Paul Campos who is a law professor at the University of Colorado and written a book he calls -- about what he calls the "Obesity Myth" and we're also joined by Edward Hudgins, he's the executive director of the Objectivist Center and a member of the Cato Institute and we're pleased to have them both with us. Professor Campos, if Wal-Mart just wants to hire healthy people, what's so terrible about that?

PAUL CAMPOS, UNIVERSITY OF COLORADO LAW SCHOOL: Well, I don't think that there's anything wrong with wanting to hire healthy people, but on the other hand, I think there's something very strong about systematically discriminating against large groups of Americans simply because of this cultural myth and hysteria that we have about the notion that if you weigh more than the government says you ought to weigh you are facing serious health risks.This is tremendously exaggerated and in fact, if Wal-Mart wanted to cut the healthcare costs and could operate on -- without any restrictions, it would be much, much more beneficial for them to discriminate, for example, against poor people, against older people, against African Americans, all sorts of groups who have significantly higher health risks as groups than do so-called overweight and obese Americans and yet we certainly wouldn't tolerate that.

BROWN: Let me come back to that point in a second. Let me bring in Dr. Hudgins for a second. Dr. Hudgins, the Cato Institute part getting my attention. I assume you'll argue they can hire fat, skinny people, tall people, short people, they can hire whoever they want and we should butt out.

PAUL CAMPOS, UNIVERSITY OF COLORADO LAW SCHOOL: Exactly. I think that the employee-employer contract is between the employer and the employee. It's none of the government's business. Anymore more than, by the way, I might agrees with Mr. Campos here, the government's business to tell you to eat Twinkies and Big Macs or fruit and granola. I prefer a healthy lifestyle but that's my business, none of the government's.

EDWARD HUDGINS, OBJECTIVIST CENTER: But then that does get into the second question of whether Wal-Mart should be -- whether it is a good policy and frankly, I -- remember, a free market means not only a competition in businesses selling goods and services, it also means a competition for employees and I think it's perfectly valid for Wal- Mart to say, you know what? We only made 3.5 percent profit last year. On our sales. We probably had our profits knocked down a couple of percentage points because of our healthcare costs so if we can get them under control and if one of the ways to do that is to, for example, cross train our employees, make sure that our employees not only sit at the desk but that they're fit enough, for example, to go stock shelves, maybe bring the healthcare costs down. Perfectly valid.

BROWN: Now let me go back to the Professor Campos for a second because the argument I think you're making if I get is that whether they want the hire healthy people or don't want the hire healthy people is beside the point. The point that you want to make is that there is a notion here that people who are overweight are more costly to the society than, in fact, is true. Is that it?

CAMPOS: Yes. That's true. We have -- I don't think it's a coincidence focusing on so-called overweight and obesity here instead of focusing on the structural factors which are driving increased healthcare costs. In which a higher than average weight is a trivial fact comparison to, for instance, to not having health insurance which half of Wal-Mart's employees don't have. That's a much higher health risk than really almost any level of higher than average weight and it is no coincidence, I think, Wal-Mart and other companies are beating the drum here on this notion that the problem is that Americans weigh too much instead of the problem being that enormous numbers of Americans and especially enormous numbers of American children don't have any health insurance at all and that's what really drives up healthcare costs, not the notion that we weigh too much.

BROWN: Dr. Hudgins, let me throw in one more thing here. Just see if I get you off an ideological position into something else. Are you not at least a little off put by the part of this Wal-Mart memo that seems to argue that the people who have worked for the company the longest are actually a drag on the company because they are not more productive and we have to pay them more? Isn't that at least a bit off-putting?

HUDGINS: Well, I'll put it like this. The goal of Wal-Mart is to make money by selling goods and services to customers, and by hiring the people that they think can do the job best. Some people can. Some people can't. I think that -- I think that the more crucial issue is the fact that Wal-Mart is trying to address what they perceive as a real problem. By the way, I agree with Professor Campos that there's a lot of mythology about obesity. For example, the government standards actually would have some of our greatest athletes in this country classified as fat or obese.

BROWN: Doctor? I'm sorry. Can I just -- do me a favor. Come back to my question here. Are you a little off put by the company which touts its wonderful relationship with the associates and the most wonderful people in the world, and -- and the woman argues that you know, after seven years, paying the people too much for the work they're doing. At the very least, isn't that a little off putting?

HUDGINS: Look, off putting to me is not the issue. The issue is, they're making business decisions like every businessperson. Now what's interesting is they're not saying fire the people. They're saying, let's look at things that we can do. For example, one of the things Wal-Mart is looking at doing is they have observed more employees, for example, tend to use the emergency rooms rather than go to regular doctor's appointments so they're thinking of putting clinics in their Wal-Marts.Here's another idea ...

BROWN: I think that's a great idea. I hope they do that. That would be a terrific ...

HUDGINS: And by the way, add another one. The makeup woman here said why not because the costs of gyms are so high, why not put in a couple of aerobics machines and a couple of nautiluses so after work, some of the employees use those in great idea.

BROWN: That would be a good idea, but in truth, to probably takes away space to sell shampoo and I think that's a problem.

HUDGINS: Those stores are so big I think they could find room for a Nautilus. What I'm saying this. They're trying to find ways to deal with the problem. I think that's a good thing.

BROWN: Right. But I wouldn't necessarily want to be there in my seventh year after reading the memo. Thank you both for joining us. I appreciate it.Still to come tonight, how a tragedy in the life of a teenager may have turned him from the caring boy to an accused murderer. Tonight.Also tonight, he's outspoken and controversial and he's a billionaire. How the owner of the in NBA's Dallas Mavericks, Mark Kuvin (ph) is drawing fire for producing a film about a would be terrorist. This is a fascinating story.We'll take a break first.

From New York, this is NEWSNIGHT.

(COMMERCIAL BREAK)BROWN: In California tomorrow, the teen accused of killing the wife of a prominent defense attorney is expected to be arraigned on murder charges. But the hearing may be pushed back. Today his lawyer bowed out of the cases citing financial reasons and a conflict of interest. Meanwhile, we're learning much more about the young suspect and the path that may have led him to all of this.Here's CNN's Ted Rowlands.

(BEGIN VIDEOTAPE)TED ROWLANDS, CNN CORRESPONDENT (voice-over): How did 16-year- old Scott Dyleski go from baseball player and Boy Scout to accused murder? Friends of Dyleski say this traffic accident in August of 2002 may have had something to do with it. Dyleski's older sister Danica (ph), who was 18 at the time killed in the wreck and friends say after she died, Scott Dyleski started to change.

ANTHONY CATANESI, FORMER CLASSMATE: That may have helped in his turn towards the, you know, the Goth side.ROWLANDS: Friends and classmates say Dyleski changed from normal kid to a withdrawn teenager standing out because of his attitude and the way he dressed.

NICK PIPER, FORMER CLASSMATE: He would just walk through the halls and he was like, I think he put makeup on himself. Like had a really white face. And stuff like that. I think he wore black lipstick and he's just walked around and everybody was like, oh my God. Who's that kid?ROWLANDS: As a freshman, he wrote this in the yearbook."I don't expect everyone to go out and make themselves unique, I just want everyone to understand that the ones that do are just being themselves and your judgments will never stop them."But now, judgment is exactly what Scott Dyleski is facing. Charged as an adult with first degree murder for the death of his neighbor, 52 year old Pamela Vitale, the wife of well-known defense attorney Daniel Horowitz.According to a law enforcement official close the case, Vitale was found with a cross-like symbol carved into the back. Dyleski, who made his first court appearance last week, is accused of killing Vitale on the 12-acre estate where they were building a new house.According to court documents just released, investigators believe Dyleski wore gloves during the killing and in addition to hitting her on the head, also stabbed Vitale in her leg. Also, a glove with traces of blood and clothing with blood were found in a duffel bag inside a van on the property where Dyleski lived.The documents also show that investigators believed he may have used stolen credit card information obtained from these neighbor mailboxes to purchase marijuana growing supplies and because he may have tried getting the supplies shipped to the Horowitz home, investigators believe the scheme could be related to the murder.

HAL JEWETT, DEPUTY DISTRICT ATTORNEY: This is a brutal homicide. And, because he's very close to his 17th birthday, we believe that it's a situation where he is not entitled to protections afforded under the juvenile law and it's appropriate to prosecute him as an adult.

ROWLANDS: Dyleski is being held on $1 million bail. As it stands now facing the possibility if convicted of 26 years to life in prison. What is still, unclear, and may never be known is why this boy changed so much in just a few years. Ted Rowlands, CNN, Martinez, California

(END VIDEOTAPE)

BROWN: Still ahead on the program tonight, a controversial off- the-cuff remark, a college football coach blames a defeat on his lack of black athletes. Really.Also tonight, spy games. A real-life spy comes in from the cold to show us what really happens when secret agents work undercover.And a man runs up a quarter of a million dollar tab at a strip club. Yikes! He says it's a fraud. But what do we really want to know? How do you spend that much money? Yeah.

This is NEWSNIGHT.

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October 27, 2005. At 5:22 PM after I complained regarding a 'guarding' of their wrong doing of plagarism and an atempt to justify racism and bigotry from the view of the public the transcript showed up. It might have been there sooner but I only revisit these issues on occassion. Aaron probalby showed up for work and told everyone to face up to the ridicule.

BROWN: If they can get flights in, they'll be there. The weather is good. Thank you David. David Mattingly in south Florida tonight.On to other matters. Certainly, the most controversial story of the day. A familiar scenario. It always sparks lightning in America. In this case it's a coach, one who might be called an "old school" football coach, sizes up his players to what can only be called a racial prism. But does that mean the remarks are racist and does that mean his is racist? That debate has been set in motion anew courtesy of one of the country's more respected captains of the grid iron. Here's CNN Sean Callebs.

(BEGIN VIDEOTAPE)

SEAN CALLEBS, CNN CORRESPONDENT: It was a humbling experience for the Air Force Academy's winning as football coach, Fisher DeBerry.

FISHER DEBERRY, FOOTBALL COACH, U.S. AIR FORCE ACADEMY: It's my desire to make a public apology for the remarks that I made recently about minority recruitment.

CALLEBS: DeBerry is a powerful man, used to getting his way after 22 years as a head coach, 17 winning seasons. But by his own admission, this time he went too far.

DEBERRY: I have made a mistake and I ask for everyone's forgiveness. I regret these statements and I sincerely hope that they will not reflect negatively toward the academy.

CALLEBS: DeBerry fumbled into this controversy after his team suffered a thrashing this weekend at the hands of Texas Christian University. The coach said the academy needed faster players, more African American athletes.

DEBERRY: Afro American kids can run very, very well.

CALLEBS: He's not the first to say blacks are more athletic than whites. And while some call DeBerry's statements insensitive and others say they're racist, his players -- black and white -- say the coach is misunderstood.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE, FOOTBALL PLAYER, U.S. AIR FORCE ACADEMY: I think his intentions were completely different than what it came out to be and, you know, it's unfortunate that it was this big of a deal.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE, FOOTBALL PLAYER, U.S. AIR FORCE ACADEMY: Nobody's offended. Everybody understands him. I know personally, I know Jason would agree, we don't care if a guy's neon green. If he can play football, we'll take him.

CALLEBS: DeBerry's comments fuel talk radio -- those against and those who support what he said.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE, TALK RADIO ANNOUNCER: When I read the comments, I didn't see it as a stab at any particular group. I saw it as more of a compliment.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE, CALLER: It was just stupid. I mean he could have easily made his point by saying we don't have the forces.

CALLEBS: DeBerry has won 161 games here. Records show he's paid more than $560,000 a year. It's the second time in two years the 67- year old has caused a public outcry here. An avowed Christian, DeBerry was forced to remove a banner from the locker room last season that read, "I belong to Team Jesus." Critics say that helped place DeBerry at the center of an ongoing controversy at the academy that evangelical Christians on campus have been over-zealous in trying to convert other cadets. Even with the issues of race and religion hanging over him, DeBerry is adamant -- he wont' be forced to quit.

DEBERRY: There has been no consideration for stepping down from my job.

(END VIDEOTAPE)

CALLEBS: And DeBerry told us today he's sorry in part because his comments help perpetuate stereotypes. Now before his news conference, he received a reprimand from the academy's new superintendent. But despite this rebuke, Aaron, the administration made it abundantly clear -- for the time being, DeBerry remains their man.

BROWN: Sean, thank you very much. Sean Callebs out in Colorado tonight. As you can imagine, there's no shortage of knee-jerk reaction to this kind of controversy. But earlier tonight, we spoke with a man who has spent considerable amount of time studying the complex issues involved here. He's Jon Entine, who's the author of, "Taboo, Why Black Athletes Dominate Sports and Why We are Afraid to Talk about It."

(BEGIN VIDEOTAPE)

BROWN: My guess is that 90 percent of the people -- maybe more -- who read the coach's comments today immediately said to themselves, whoa, he shouldn't have said that. Not that's a ridiculous thing to say, not that couldn't possibly be true, but simply he should not have said that.

JON ENTINE, AUTHOR, TABOO: Race is a third rail in the United States. With our history of racism, segregation, slavery, we can't talk about these things. Even when the science is on the side of the coach, which it definitely is in this case; I don't think any biologist or geneticist would deny that. It's scary stuff to talk about human differences.BROWN: In what sense is the science on the side of the coach?

ENTINE: Well, we're really not talking about a black/white issue here. And I think that really will I think drain some of the racist notions attached to this. This is about population genetics. This is about how different sub-populations and people of west African ancestry -- African Americans are primarily west African ancestry -- have a certain body type in physiology that's been shaped over tens of thousands of years of evolution. You take an east African, a Kenyon, who are great distance runners -- middle and long distance runners, they're terrible at the sprints. This is not a black/white issue. This is about what different populations, because of the way they evolved, might have certain advantages in certain kinds of sports. Whites in weight lifting and the field events -- in track and field, for instance.

BROWN: I mean, I don't know, I don't remember how long ago it was that Jimmy the Greek got in so much trouble with CBS, but there's a world of difference. I'm not sure Jimmy the Greek was correct. I don't remember precisely what he said. But there's a world of difference between what Jimmy the Greek said back then and what Al Campanis said. Al Campanis got in trouble for saying essentially black African Americans didn't have the intellectual -- I'm paraphrasing something here -- didn't have the intellectual abilities to manage in professional baseball.

ENTINE: Yes, Jimmy the Greek said that blacks were bread to be better athletes because of slavery, which sounds attractive; and frankly, I think many African Americans believe that as truth. But that's not accurate as well. But there is a difference. Because Al Campanis said something that is blatantly racist. On the other hand, Jimmy the Greek, although he was wrong, kind of got the idea correct, which is that there are differences and we can see them. Human differences are difficult to talk about.

BROWN: Do you think that the coach out at Air Force was at least inelegant in the way he said something.

ENTINE: Oh, oh absolutely. But let's step back a second. Put him in the context of his locker room where the black players and the white players talk about this all the time. I've talked to dozens and dozens of athletes. And to talk about these things in a joking or a serious way is just part of the locker room. So he's taking that kind of framework and he's talking about it in public. Was he inelegant? Of course. And he put it in black and white terms because I don't know if he's aware of the fact of the differences between let's say west and east African athletes as an example. Absolutely. There's a crudeness for this. But again, the guy was hung out to dry. I know he's not going to end up resigning because there's a little bit of sanity here. But this has gotten people in trouble for years and years and years and all it does is discourage people from talking about these issues without invoking racism at every turn.

(END VIDEOTAPE)

BROWN: Joe Entine. Coming up on the program, the CIA leak. Will top White House officials really risk everything to discredit Joe Wilson? We'll take a closer look at Mr. Wilson. But first, as you know, this week we arrived at a milestone -- 2,000 American troops killed in Iraq. Tonight, and for the remainder of the week, we honor the men and the women who lost their lives there. Because this is NEWSNIGHT.(COMMERCIAL BREAK)

National Coming Out Day

I had written CNN and told them they needed to be honest the public and Anderson should be an advocate for Gays rather than favoring the "Religious Right" who deployed his sexual preference.

Out, out damn celebs! From Anderson Cooper to Jodie Foster, it’s time for the rich and famous to stop playing games and start answering ‘the question.’

Friday, October 21, 2005

NATIONAL COMING OUT Day came and went last week without any public declarations from celebrities or other public figures long rumored to be gay, but who simply refuse to acknowledge their sexual orientation.
It’s a long and varied list, from A-list Hollywood celebrities to popular television anchors to prominent politicians.
These closet cases choose to hide and deceive — and to protect their incomes and images — at the expense of contributing important weight and star power to the gay civil rights movement.

http://www.washblade.com/2005/10-21/view/editorial/come-out.cfm

More of the same. Aaron is not getting aire time.

Aaron is there to attack the mature views while Anderson does a number on the west coast trendy viewer. Aaron is hardly seen.

Aaron Brown's NewsNight

0959

Anderson is in Florida and Aaron is in New York

1000

Frankenstein and The Whip Around the World

1001

Wilma and the 140 mph winds and onto Florida

1001

Anderson and the storm and then "The Whip Around the World"

1003

Susan Candiotti - CNN clocked 130 mph. But what was the official record at the time or wasn't there one. Cute, they are trying to rebuild the image of the 'Superdome' with a torn canopy.

1004

Anderson and Chad. Aaron's been lost to us now. Anderson has to sell a product.

1007

Anderson to Aaron - the storm - people will die as they will be in places that would normally be safe. But, no one is expecting 30 hours of sustained Cat 4 winds.

1008

Candy Crowley - Bush's loss of control. "Background noise, Chatter and opining. But the American people expect me to do my job and I'm going to." Is that sixteen words? I wonder what he will say as they cart him off to the World Court for the violations of the Geneva Conventions?

1010

Aaron and onto commercials. Yeah, Aaron that is when Anderson hands the program over to you. When there is one more taped segment before the commercials. This way your face is on the screen a total of about 30 seconds out of 3 minutes. The show is 120 minutes? I thought so.


1013

Aaron to taped segment of Joe Johns and the whiner "Ronnie Earle is picking on me."
Republicans in Texas did send five new members to Congress in Texas.

1016

News stuff.

Hey, Aaron, Mike is doing well with his new taxi service. He's become an activist for a change in rates in town already. He and about four other independents, not gypsies, they are licensed in town. But, he and four other independents are attending mayor and council meetings to change the rate structure. Not only that Aaron, but, in less than a month and even with the cost of gasoline Mike is making all his own expenses. No deficit spending. Not bad for a new start up taxi venture, huh? I got great sons, Aaron.

1018

commercials

1021

Anderson at the top of the next quarter of the hour. Getting this drift? Yeah,

1022

Ah, Gary Tuchman.
Something about stubborn people who stay behind to die in Cat 5 storms.

1025

Anderson to Aaron - "Any weather there?" Basically from Anderson, no and they are having a good time on the company.

1026

Commercials

1029

See, Anderson is back at the beginning of the time segment. Aaron brings up the rear and never gets journalism time. Lousy bastards aren't they?

Oh, Anderson who cares what your are kissing up about, it's completely obvious who YOU kiss up to on a regular basis and it ain't the public.

Another "Whip around the World" - I suppose he has to appear to be delivering a news segment.

1031

To Susan Candiotti about Wilma in Cancun. Eight hours currently. 'Relentless and loud… Sounds like a freight train…." Believe it or not the sound of wind and water at 140 mph hour has certain decibels.

1034

Anderson to Aaron about the storm surge and not just the wind. "We turn to our SEVERE WEATHER EXPERT, in Chad Myers." Ah, Chad is reading the official 11 o'clock advisory. Oh, it's still a Cat 4 storm. We got that impression from Susan.

http://weather.unisys.com/satellite/sat_ir_enh_hem_loop-12.html

1036

Aaron to Lucille Newman in Cuba. The citizens of Cuba are in a hurry to complete the evacuation to a shelter at a school. Every reason according to Lucille people listen to the government and leave to safer places. Okay. She is a good reporter. I like her style. Very precise. Efficient. Clear picture

1039

Aaron to commercials.

1042

Anderson and Naples, Florida. "Deadly Donna." 1964. Donna went up the east coast if I remember right. I remember it. I was kid. It was a rather traumatic event back then. I remember that storm and it wasn't all that horrible. It had plenty of energy but the flooding wasn't there as I remember it.

Chad did you plagiarize?

Hurricane Donna
Aug. 29-Sept. 14, 1960
Max. winds: 160 mph Min. pressure: 932 mb Category: 5
Powerful Hurricane Donna roared into the northeast Caribbean at peak intensity late on Sept. 4. It then rampaged across Puerto Rico and the Bahamas before swiping southern Florida on Sept. 10 with 135 mph sustained winds and peak gusts to 175 mph in the Florida Everglades. Donna then turned tail and, crossing the Florida Peninsula, raced northward along the East Coast, lashing every state from South Carolina to New York with hurricane-force winds before slamming into New England on Sept. 12 with winds gusts up to 130 mph at Block Island, R.I. Hurricane Donna crossed Long Island with a 100-mile-wide eye. In New Haven, Conn., a barometer measured a minimum surface pressure of 966.8 millibars, or 28.55 inches. Only three people perished in New England.

http://www.usatoday.com/weather/huricane/wdonna.htm

The pressure is far lower with Wilma. 882 millibars.

1045

Anderson with stuff about the oncoming storm.

1049

Paula Zahn with then and now and the 'Shark Attack Young Lady' and on to commercials.

1053

Aaron and Harriet - "Earned a spot along side of the greats. We don't say this too often but the Executive Producer who came up for the idea of this piece is a genius." If I got paid to say it I'd probably say it, too.

Aaron taped.

Dennis the Menace Episode.

"Dear Governor GWB, you are the …. Governor….hopefully Jenna and Barbara …. Blah, blah, blah and lots of superlatives."

http://weather.unisys.com/satellite/sat_wv_east_loop-12.html

I found it boring. I mean it's just typical Bush. Same ole, same ole. I guess it is actually a step forward for Ms. Bigot. To actually say something derogatory about Bush, the white man. Getting there. Long way to go. I mean I am already signed onto Kyoto during Bush #41. Long way to go to get caught up to that mark. I want to save my planet not just win an election and kill people in a war that should have never been fought. You know what I mean, Puss? Somehow, I find my values a bit more important than yours !!!! Oil Barron Princess. Long way to go. But, hey, your welcome to come on and catch up any time now.

1057

Commercials

1100

Aaron and on to Frankenstein and the "Whip Around the World" as well as the Los Vegas show girl intro to 'the boys.'

1101

Aaron onto Anderson and another but different topic "Whip Around the World."

1102

Anderson to Chad and a repeat of the 11:00 o'clock update.

1104

Anderson to Aaron

1105

Aaron about Scott Gillespie and his indictment with Pamela Vitale's murder.

1105

Taped segment about the murder by Ted Rollins. Aaron live to Ted "Has he been talking to police?" According to any accounting as of yesterday. NO.

1108

Aaron to Nancy Grace. Taped. "The Evidence." Nancy feels there should be DNA under Pam's fingernails. What comes over people anymore? I guess no one is allowed to be happy these days. Daniel did a lot of 'Pro Bono' work for this family. Murder I. Life without parole maximum.

1111

Aaron to commercials.

1114

Aaron you did the frozen guy last night. Onto Thelma Guitteraz. Oh, WWII. Yeah, Bush is selling WWII.

http://weather.unisys.com/satellite/sat_wv_east_loop-12.html

NO ID.

1117

Aaron and onto a Taped Aaron and a forensic scientist (anthropologist), Kathy Reichs. Are you guys for real with these names. WWII - Reich.

As this website indicates the 'Third Reich' has moved on.

http://www.skalman.nu/3rd-moved/

Sharon von Zwieten the Religious Bigot. She prides herself on subliminal suggestion of her audience.

Amazing.

SICKO !!!

Aaron I am a bit surprised at your indulgence of this mess.

1120

Aaron live, or should I say delayed alive and The Bird Flu.

1120

Ryan Chillicote. Russian town. The Russians have a problem. The villagers are still healthy. Their livelihood is a worry. $3.00 per chicken wasn't a welcome compensation. Disinfectant used at the edge of town. The birds were culled. The disinfectant smells like vinegar. It probably is. Thanks, Ryan. It really is THE BIRD FLU.

1122

The 'baited' response to a CNN trivia question. "Answer when you come back." Taped by Aaron. Commercials.

1126

The answer to the CNN trivia is about Scott's arrest. "A second wave of death as the winter sets in." Judith mislead the New York Times about her role in the investigation. Really? Time for the Times to write their version. Bye, Judith. They stood by you. It's not right.

1126

Aaron live and Wilma and onto news stuff.

1128

Aaron to Anderson and onto Gary Tuchman. Key West is a major party town and a group of women "Meet the Flintstones" WILMA. "Where is Wilma?"

Not dissimilar from New Orleans. That is the COAST. There are resort towns on the coast. It's difficult to get people to be serious about danger.

1131

Anderson to commercials.

1132

Anderson in Naples, Florida and "The Whip Around the World."

1133

Anderson to Chad Myers their storm expert. Cat 4. It drift south. The "W"rong direction. There is no wrong direction for these storms Chad. They don't know right or wrong. They don't take orders. This storm is still in oscillation with the dynamics in the Pacific as well as the Atlantic. It's going to do odd things. That should not be a surprise. That is what bothers me about all this. Every time we turn around it is another surprise.

1135

Anderson saw rain in Naples. The NBA dress code. An on going joke with each other. Athletes as role models.

1136

Aaron taped. NBA stars and their dress in their personal lives. The league wants an image improvement at the cost of independence and freedom. Alan Iverson is absolutely correct. Derek Fisher is correct. Personal freedom is important. Next thing they'll know they won't be able to wear anything except white underwear.

1139

Aaron and taped Mark Cuban. The ownership doesn't understand the players. Did they ever? I don't consider the corporations an important entity here. The corporations need to care about what the fans care about. The fans are buying their products. It's the fans people need to think about all the way around here.

1141

Dennis Rodman and Aaron - Yes, Dennis we all know you didn't care what you looked like. Actually, Dennis, we all knew the wilder the 'look' the happier you were. We expected it. It was Dennis. That's all. Dennis is correct. The owners should have discussed it with the players. "The Declaration." This is more intolerance to difference as handed down by this administration. The more marginalized 'difference' becomes the worse the social environment gets. The players need to stand their ground. Hey, Dennis. I tell you what. I think you have plenty of Political Capitol to spend here. Do it Dennis. In all honesty, it seems terribly racist don't you think?

Quotes by Rodman

"I've been homeless. I've worked at 7-Eleven. I'm a real person, with real experiences, not some image that somebody in the NBA office created."

"I can go out to a salon and have my nails painted pink, and then go out and play in the NBA, on national television, with pink nails."

"I wanted to be white because I was black, and black was never the right color."

"I see Chris Dudley, Derrick Coleman, Dale Davis, and Anthony Mason making huge money, and I see injustice. Who buys a ticket to see these guys play?"

"If I die young, everybody's going to say they saw it coming."

"They're just trying to be physical, and that's not their game. They're trying to get into my head. But you have to understand, you can't mess with the master."

"I knew I would have been just another nigger if I didn't play basketball..."

[on NBA lockout] "The owners are right and the players are right. There is no happy medium. They should just cancel the whole season and let everybody get a real job... I'll bet they come to an agreement real quick."

"Don't let what other people think decide who you are"

1145

Aaron to commercials.

1147

Anderson and Wilma. Man made structures cannot stand the storms.

1147

My initial reaction to the name of Dome of a Home is a name sounding similar to "Dome of the Rock." Oddly the house is a rock.

"What is it about the Dome shape?" When the wind hits it there is no 'sheer force' and it can take a great deal of stress.

Inflating a balloon to cover the Dome Home. The home is built on pilings. Perimeter ring with the pilings going down to a certain depth. It gives us a lot of 'free space.' the one thing that last season's storms actually washed away. The stairs. They are designed to break away. Stayed during Ivan and the people in the Dome Home slept through it all.

http://www.domeofahome.com/

It's a stone home with plenty of space under it to allow tides to pass underneath. It will work. I don't know if I would stay anyway. But it will stand through most severe storms. Because it is ROCK.

1152

Commercials.

1154

Anderson and Naples, Florida. Michael Jackson. Taped segment. Anderson.

1156

Anderson to Aaron. "You make Dennis Rodman seem normal."

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